LORD Authors Newsletter Issue #8 - Conclusion: Castle Camelot LORD Newsletter #8, Part Two: Development concluded October 01, 2001. Official Release (HTML) on October 02, 2001. Re-Released Issue Files on October 08, 2001, evening. Released Text files on LordNews List on October 09, 2001. Posted Issue #8 files to Fidonet on October 15, 2001. Created by Donald Tidmore - donald.tidmore@usa.net http://www.geocities.com/SiliconValley/Vista/5389/camelot5.html -------------------------------------------------------------------- Table of Contents: LordNews Issue #8, Part One: ----------------------------------------------- (1) Former LORD Authors Section: (2) Standard/Misc. Entries (3) RunTime Error 200 Notes (4) LORD IGMs Listing Project (5) Old LORD Authors Research (6) WT-LORD Discussion Notes (7) Recent LORD Files (8) LORD Authors Status Notes (9) LordNews Issues Files Links (10) Summary/Contributions ** Added 10/03/01: (11) Post-Release Updates Section ** ------------------------------------------------------------ Former LORD Authors Section: Isaac Adolph -- entivore@hotmail.com ------------------------------------------------------------ 08/16: Leonard wasn't the one who wrote the Darkest Dungeon Lord2 program, but rather it was his son (me). I used my dad's email address since at the time we were new to the Internet, and didn't know about things like Hotmail then. None of the Worlds I've made actually got completely finished. I lost interest for many reasons, the main ones being that all the local BBS's disappeared so I had nowhere to post them for people to play. And when the Official Lord II site went down or moved, and I couldn't find it anymore, I stopped working on things. I have a more updated version of the Darkest Dungeon program than the site does for sure though, and I have various other worlds that I never bothered to upload. If you were interested, I wouldn't mind letting you see them all. I doubt if anyone would turn down a chance to show off their creations. I could probably finish one or two of my new worlds if I knew of a good Telnet or other BBS emulating type site that would put them up, but otherwise I've stopped working on them. Oh yeah, and I never bothered to give the stuff version numbers because I was quite young at the time I was working on the stuff. BTW, your Camelot stuff is cool. 09/09: Nothing new to report. I don't have any real motivation to work on the Lord 2 stuff right now. It's been so long and there is nobody specific who is interested in my work, so it's really not a priority. Ahkenaton - webmaster@kulchadon.com ------------------------------------------------------------ 08/28: DT> Are you still supporting your Lord programs, should users need help, wish to do new registrations, or replace lost registration keys? My IGMs are all freeware now, and while I am no longer updating them, I will answer questions. DT> Do you have a current web site? http://www.kulchadon.com/cogfiles.html. DT> Do you want to announce anything in my newsletter? Well not really, perhaps just the link to the files, and the fact that the IGMs are all freeware. I am no longer interested in making IGMs or any other programs for LORD. DT> Would you be interesting in having another LORD author take over your LORD programs' support and development? Ok, I might be interested in that. But they were made with a really old Sharkware engine, not sure if it's even worth the trouble to try and update them. Nice hearing from you, good luck with the project. --------------------------------------------- 09/25 Notes: I told Ahkenaton a month ago that his web-page was completely unusable and it still is today. It uses illegal \'s in file URLs, and has other illegal HTML coding mistakes. Several files listed, once you edit the page to fix the screwy HTML coding, don't actually exist on his site. I have all of his LORD programs listed on my LORD IGMs Page. The IGMs, all freeware now, are City of the Sun God, Daemonica S. Dominion, Fairy Peddler (replaced The Jewler), Galactic Warriors, and Grizelda's Place. Support files are adultd.zip, Daemonica Rocks menuset, and DaeRanks utility. Brian Bray -- bbray@xmission.com ------------------------------------------------------------ 08/28: DT> I'm writing about the support/version status of your LORD utility, Anti-Cheat. AC 1.5 was all I've ever done... I wrote that like 6-8 years ago, when I was like 15, and still running a BBS. Do people really still use it? I haven't played LORD for a long time, and wasn't even aware it still existed. As for updating my program, I don't think I have the source code for it any more. Eric Cameron -- rederick57@yahoo.com ------------------------------------------------------------ 08/28: DT> I'm writing about the status of your Galagher Lord IGM, and any other programs you wrote. It was my friend and me who put those together. I just happened to be the one with the web space when we put it together, oh, 5 years ago. I don't have a copy, and I don't know if he will either. Note: Reached Chuck Culver through email address provided by Eric. Chuck Culver -- chuck@sussex.tec.nj.us ------------------------------------------------------------ 08/30: Wow. Your message brought back some memories. I used to run a BBS about 6 years ago and LORD was THE GAME at the time. If you weren't running LORD, you were nothing. At the time, I was fairly decent at programming in TP7. I even wrote a door game of my own. Sort of a LORD clone... Called "FATE". Kind of a vampire-based theme.. Anyway, about these IGMs. Galagher wasn't the only one that I did. I also wrote Lottery v1.0, Mosh Pit 1.0, and one that didn't take off too well called The Nudie Bar. Anyway, I might, somewhere on a floppy disk in my closet, have the source code for them. I'll try digging around and see what I can find for you. 08/31: I went digging through all my old stuff and I found the source files for the three IGMs. The Nudie Bar IGM seems to be lost however. No big deal, it wasn't that great anyway. I have WIN2k & WIN-ME at home, and I recompiled them and they ran fine last night. Talking about them made me want to play them again. Almost every one has a little bit of our lives mixed into the game. Mostly in the Mosh Pit. Band named Eric's Dad. Friends who tag along with you are buddies from school, etc. I'll re-compile them "officially" and make them totally free-ware since the game is so old now. Back when I was 17 or 18 that nominal registration fee could have helped. But now when I'm actually making a REAL salary, who cares. 09/27: Moved Chuck's comments on RTE 200 to new section. Suzanne Franklin "Kiteria" -- fuzzykin@flash.net Kiteria's Korner!: http://www.shelby.net/wizards/kiteria/ ------------------------------------------------------------ 08/05: Hey, I enjoyed the newsletter. It was very informative! It's great to see that everyone has been so busy and keeping this great BBS game alive, as well as all their other projects. I got a big laugh out of Jack Phlash's name for his company, Damned Software. I bet everyone's said that a few times, and Jack just took it to the next step. Well Donald, keep up the good work, and I'll write more again later. Your friend, Suzanne Franklin "Kiteria". Notes: If you need to talk to her, use fuzzykin@flash.net. But she prefers not to have people asking her LORD questions. She's retired from LORD play. If you want to visit Kiteria's Korner!, go to www.shelby.net/wizards/kiteria/. Bobby and I try to keep it fairly up-to-date. 10/02 Note: Kiteria site was updated this past weekend. Robert Fogt - robertf@oz.net ------------------------------------------------------------ 09/25: I found the source code for The Outhouse Lord IGM, and the Lord Menu utility, which is a menu system for sites with tons of IGMs. Still looking for the source for Hal's Ocean View Resort TEOS IGM. I talked to the guy I had sold my programs to, and he no longer wants to have exclusive distribution rights to them. So I can send you the source to any of my programs that I find. I also have a ton of Searchlight BBS utilities, should anyone want any. Trevor Herndon: dreamsensei@yahoo.com ------------------------------------------------------------ 08/29: DT> What can you tell me about the Anastasia's Honeymoon Hotel IGM, which was listed as being by a Kris Anderson. Actually, I wrote the software, but she was the inspiration (her middle name is Anastasia actually). If you'd like to list the programs as freeware, be my guest. No luck so far on getting the TPU unit from Seth, still working on it. 09/11 Notes: Trevor is not able to provide support for his IGMs other than to answer questions. He is unable to provide new registration codes, due to the loss of the registration code generator program. His LORD IGMs are Anastasia's Honeymoon Hotel, Castle of LORD, The Love Shack, and Violet's Cottage. He will give out advice on how his IGMs are supposed to be used, if someone wants/needs that kind of help. 09/20 Trevor: I'm glad the IGMs work after being patched, but I'm no longer associating myself with them publicly. Anyone who wishes to do so has my permission to crack the IGMs to get registration codes, provided they share them with others. IGMs info: LORD Pit is like the original Pit game. The Anastasia IGM has a bug, don't use it. If it's exploited by someone, they can win the LORD game easily. As for Seth, I've not heard anything from him myself in years, about the TPU file that I need to be able to give out IGM registration codes. The Castle of LORD IGM's knight.dat file is needed by the game. It's a zero-byte file that stores the info of the user when they enter the IGM, then it purges itself when they exit. 09/27 Note: Picked this up from Michael Everett's site. Info is from Trevor. To register Violet's Cottage, use Me! for the Registration Name, and 69930 for the Reg. code. Usable only for that IGM. 09/28 Note: Seth Robinson has searched through his old BBS files, but was not able to find Trevor's TPU files. He thinks that Gameport has those TPU files, but isn't sure. I've asked Preslar to check into that. Brian May -- hellrzr@ix.netcom.com ------------------------------------------------------------ 09/27: Contacted author about problems with on-screen gibberish in Wise One and Dragon's Claw Tavern IGMs. He's looking into figuring what causes problem, noticed playing LORD on 933 Mhz, Win-ME system. Programs worked normally on Win95, 200 Mhz system. Tried out Caldor's Orphanage - doesn't work in Local mode. Author of LType v2.00 Lord utility also. Don't know if Brian has a web-site. Kenneth Padgett -- maverick@lords.com No-Name Productions (Inactive, not Update-able): http://pages.prodigy.com/no-name/kenneth.htm ------------------------------------------------------------ 08/29: I'm still around, but I haven't worked on Hiding in the Shadows in years, and version 1.0 is/was the only released version. I even installed my Iomega ZIP drive, and checked my archives to be sure! To my surprise, no one ever complained about any bugs. As for any other IGMs, I never completed one for Planets: TEOS called "The Great Space Race", it was going to be a moving ANSI star field, fly your ship through to get points, collect items, etc type thing, with a ranking to see who was the best, etc. It never got very far! Unfortunately, the prodigy account I had (it was a free one, a long time ago) where that web site is hosted is no longer functional, and I'm amazed that the server is still up and running, being as out-dated as it is. So to answer your question, is there an up- to-date site? No. The No-Name BBS, my BBS, went down sometime in '96, much like everyone else has. Us sysops can thank the good old NET and it's high bandwidth for that. I still know a guy that runs a telnet BBS, but he is certainly among the rare these days. Since the last registration I sold for HITS was in the middle of '98, I attached a free registration you may post on your site for your visitors. You may also list my email, maverick@lords.com, which, for the foreseeable future, should work. Hope I answered your questions; feel free to contact me any time! 08/29 Source: Freeware.txt file received by Email. This code is registered to Freeware! Thank you for registering Hiding in the Shadows! This registration code will work with all versions. Name IGM is registered to: FREEWARE. Registration Code: 2688913461. To register Hiding in the Shadows on your BBS, use SHADCFG.EXE and choose the config option from the main menu. Enter the name and code exactly as shown above. The latest version of Hiding in the Shadows is v1.00. Thank you for registering! By doing that, you are making Hiding in the Shadows a bigger and better IGM. 09/23: If you want to re-package the IGM and include the freeware status change and registration info, that's OK with me. Just bear in mind people that I don't have the ability to support the IGM very much now, and bug fixes are probably out of the question these days. Loved the LORD IGM Listing site you're working on with Hannesson, it's awesome! Keep up the hard work. Justin Pasher -- jpasher@airmail.net Lazor Software: http://web2.airmail.net/jpasher/lazorsoft/ ------------------------------------------------------------ 08/25: Wow. It's pretty amazing to hear from someone that still does things in the BBS world. It turns out that the versions of LORD Player Deleter and UnCheat you have are the latest versions. Since I wrote the program many years ago on the verge of the Internet taking over the BBS world, I never had to write a new version, since I received no comments or complaints. As far as putting the files back on my site, I've never really thought of that, since very few people do stuff with BBS's anymore. However, I went ahead and stuck the links back in the page for those two programs, so if you like, you can link the site. The exact URL is http://web2.airmail.net/jpasher/lazorsoft/. Seth Robinson: seth@rtsoft.com Robinson Technologies: http://www.rtsoft.com ------------------------------------------------------------ 09/20: In answer to your questions, I did sell Barak along with the rest. All of the new changes you mentioned were added by Preslar I believe, I hadn't even heard about that. (DGT: I'd asked Seth when LORD changed to only allow access past Level 4, and had the bartender start robbing patrons during gems conversions. I discovered this in v4.06 while using LORD to evaluate IGMs for the RTE 200 problem.) The Barak's house source code IS included with Barak's House though, so anybody could recompile it if they had the Turbo Pascal stuff. As for re-packing, I don't hold any rights or have any say-so, but I doubt anybody would mind. I've been working along on various stuff, PocketPC stuff is going pretty good, also testing FuneralQuest, the game I told you about a while ago. People are welcome to give it a shot here at my alpha testing link: www.rtsoft.com/fq, (Feel free to share the link with your mailing list!) Thanks, Seth. 09/27 Update: I asked Bryan Turner if he'd mind taking Barak's House and recompile the IGM, so that others didn't have to worry about the RTE 200 problem. Bryan has done that, and released Barak20.zip to me, and sent it to Ruth Argust for the Fidonet DDS echo. It has been tested and verified to work on Bryan's BBS. Vamsi Tadepalli: vamsi@email.unc.edu -OR- vtadepalli@hotmail.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------- 08/29: Hi, I'm not really in the loop when it comes to LORD any more. I wrote the Latrine back in high school, but have not done anything since, except for sending my source code this past spring to Michael Everett. Sorry, hope you have better luck contacting old LORD authors with everyone else. David Taylor -- davey79@prodigy.net ------------------------------------------------------------ 08/26: I'm no longer writing any BBS software, and I don't support them any further. The code for the Dave's Inn IGM, last version 0.91 beta, should be considered public domain, and open to the world to use, if need be. I believe I have the source code lying around somewhere. I didn't write any other Lord programs, but did write a BBS door called Dave's Lotto that had some success. 08/30: My web site is not functional at the moment, but it may be by November. When it becomes available, it will be at http://www.elasticrebound.com. (Note: The site is not available yet as of October 01, 2001.) Janet Terry -- jterry@donet.com Vandora Software - Still closed down. ------------------------------------------------------------ 08/24: I'm busy with a new way of living, following the death in 1999 of my husband, which includes taking care of my daughter, and working on writing a novel. I have purchased some of Carl Tice's games. I owned The Fair, and sold it. I bought Wild Wild West, and Food Fight. I also bought some of Joe's code from WT-LORD to help program certain parts of the game I was working on - MORK. It would have been a western version of LORD, and Wild Wild West mixed. Wrote 27,000 liners of code and never finished it. I have a server setting idle, and don't know when I will put it back online. I can't afford the expense right now, and first need to figure out a product that will pay the expenses. With so many dot coms going under, one needs to be careful before leaping in and accumulating a lot of bills. I am surprised that WT-LORD is still so popular. One of the main reasons I stopped programming is that so many sysops who ran hobby boards closed down, and there seemed no profit in writing a program. Also, I did not sell even 1 version of my IGMS, so lost heart in creating them. Nannette Thacker -- nannette@shiningstar.net Shining Star S/w: http://www.shiningstar.net/bbsdoors/html/door.html ------------------------------------------------------------ 08/29: DT> Are you still supporting your LORD/BBS door programs? I still offer them for download and sale. But I don't "support" them. The installer and user are on their own in that regard. http://www.shiningstar.net/bbsdoors/. From Nannette's web site: NOTICE: I no longer SUPPORT these doors. Don't ask me for help, and don't ask me for upgrades. The price is cheap because you don't get support. I have not been in the BBS door programming business for years. So make sure you install them and they work before you purchase them! The registration fee per program is $10.00. Tom Toothman -- tostrhed@flipag.net ------------------------------------------------------------ 08/26: I don't know if anyone is still using my Across the Tracks LORD IGM, but if anyone is interested in me updating it, I'd be glad to do so. I am fully supportive of my program. Last minute notes: 10/01: Read this weekend's email. Heard from Kyle Parish. He was not able to locate the source code for his LORD Stables IGM, and is going to rewrite it from scratch. No news heard for issue from my friend Codax Dragon, who is going to college. Closed issue to new entries after adding info from Bobby Queen and Kyle Parish. [Red LORD barline] ====================================================================== Standard/Miscellaneous Entries Section: Ruth Argust: ruth@doorgames.org (OR ruth@pedpride.net) DDS on the Web: http://www.doorgames.org Goldengate Ddsdoors FTP: ftp://bbs.goldengate.net/ddsdoors/ ------------------------------------------------------------ All IGM/utility authors are invited to send their file(s) to ruth@doorgames.org so that the file(s) can be sent to sysops all over the world (and Internet webmasters). Please be certain that the file is virus-free and DOES contain a FILE_ID.DIZ file. For more information on having your file hatched, please see the DDS Web Page at http://www.doorgames.org or contact me directly. This is a free service to all in order to provide you with wide circulation of your programs. There is also a ListServ for receiving all files hatched into DDSDOORS for those who do not otherwise have a way to receive them. For more details, see the ddsinfo.zip file. Services offered by Ruth include web site hosting at low prices, at petpride.net. 09/27 Note: Ruth has recovered from back surgery in July, and has returned to work as the Fidonet DDS echo host. Mike Ehlert: mike@pcmicro.com BBS Archives Homepage: http://archives.theBBS.org LORD Add-ons Page: http://www.pcmicro.com/BBS/ra98c.htm LORD Utilities Page: http://www.pcmicro.com/BBS/ra99c.htm Door Developer Kits Page: http://www.pcmicro.com/BBS/ra98c.htm ------------------------------------------------------------ The BBS Archives have a large collection of Lord, LORD2, and T-Lord IGMs and utilities, with over a thousand Lord-related files. Mike supplies BBS/Lord authors with free web hosting, without annoying pop- up ads and banners. You will get 20 megabytes of fast web space for free, along with a web-page hits counter, guest-book, and link manager. See http://thebbs.org/homepage for details. Authors and others may send BBS programs to Mike for hosting on his web-site either by Email, or by uploading them to his FTP server. For more info, read Mike's entry in LordNews Issue #4. 06/23 Note: I offer a free BBS-related mailing list service at theBBS.org, which contains no advertising or spam. It lets the owner add/remove members, and they can also join your list from a web-page, like they do it at www.elebbs.com. 09/28: I'm doing great. I recently switched over to a new ISP, which has given me additional bandwith as well as a more stable connection. I have not done any updating to the BBS Archives pages in quite a while, but plan to do so in the upcoming couple of months as I've just completed some other projects that have been taking up much of my time. Rob Starr -- lordtime2000@yahoo.com ------------------------------------------------------------ 08/10: My LORD involvement is that I'm a BBS sysop, as well as a player, and I am an LC of a League, named League 10. Time Warp of the Future BBS: Dial-up: (360) 891-0969 - 12 AM to 9 AM PST. Telnet: Time.Darktech.Org -9 AM to 12 AM PST. Timewarpfuture.Dyndns.Org (backup) - 9 AM to 12 AM PST. ICQ #11868133 [Red LORD barline] ====================================================================== RunTime Error 200 Info Section: 09/27 Note: I've decided it makes more sense to combine all sources of data on RTE 200 into one place. Chuck Culver 08/31: The problem with almost all old DOS programs, and especially for LORD, is the fact that all new machines are faster than 200 mhz. It doesn't really have much to do with Y2K. You probably have noticed that when most of them are run, you get Runtime Error 200. This is caused by a Turbo Pascal 7 programming bug involving timing with the CRT unit. There are a number of utilities to fix this problem. Just do a Yahoo search for "runtime error 200". There are TSR's to catch the problem and allow the program to run correctly. There is also a few patches for the .exe files themselves so you don't need a TSR running. And there is a "fixed" crt.tpu unit so that when the program is re-compiled, everything should be fine. Chuck 09/05: Here's some information links on the Runtime Error 200 problem. Intel saying why the runtime error 200 happens: http://support.intel.com/support/processors/pentiumII/run200.htm. Here is one page for patches: http://www.merlyn.demon.co.uk/pas-r200.htm. Here is another: http://www.brain.uni-freiburg.de/~klaus/pascal/runerr200. Basically just do a search on Yahoo, or another search engine, for: runtime error 200. Robert Olsen 09/06: Some IGM's compiled with Turbo Pascal that exhibit the Runtime Error 200 message can be fixed with the TPPatch Runtime Errors patch program. However, there are some other IGM's that were compiled with "something else," that do not get fixed with TPPatch. Trevor Herndon 09/11: About runtime errors in LORD IGMs, RTE 200 is not patch-able by users other than by using the Tppatch program because of the Hardware on your PC, NOT the software. You can also try the tp7p5fix program, but I haven't tested it either. This has to do with a bug in the Turbo Pascal compiler written by Borland, and it has nothing to do with the O.S. you're using. My notes 09/25: See download link for tppatch.exe. Those looking for info can also search for bp7patch.zip. Converted the RTE info site URLs into hyperlinks. For updating source code files to fix RTE200 problem, programmers need to get by Pedt Scragg's CRT.ZIP file. His web-page should be read before using the program. Go to http://www.pedt.demon.co.uk/crt. His page also reports that the tppatch fix may fail on systems with CPUs over 450 MHz depending on which 16-bit fix the program uses. As I check up on Lord IGMs to determine which ones have RTE 200 problems, or other problems, people can see my LORD IGMs Page for updates. Those IGMs that have RTE200 problems are marked, and if they are unusable, that is noted also. [Red LORD barline] ====================================================================== LORD IGMs Listing Project Section: 09/24: I have been helping Lloyd Hannesson finish his LORD I IGMs Listing database. The database now has around 200 IGMs listed, and is nearly completed. Since August, I have been looking at each IGM to see if the author can be accessed by email. Many never listed an email address at all. Others gave ones that are worthless today. And some seem to work, but no one ever responds to my messages. In order to determine if the IGMs work or not today, I started out by installing LORD v4.06. I currently know of 234 LORD IGMs, most of which are now in Lloyd's database. I have attempted to install about 1/4 of them in LORD so far. Results vary, and I've learned some things in the process. LORD version 4.06 does not allow the unregistered player past Level 4. Also, the bartender cheats the player during gems conversion frequently. Version 4.00a of LORD still works, but has to be patched first with tppatch.exe. I have not tested any other LORD versions, but assume previous versions also have RTE 200 problems. And that really old ones may not be usable at all. I do not run a BBS, so my testing is done in Local mode. At least one IGM, Socrates Shop, installed OK, but would not run when selected from the Other Places menu, because I did not have a BBS setup. Another IGM refused to install because I already had 9 other IGMs installed. If you need a copy of the tppatch program, use this link. Some IGMs can be fixed using TPPatch, and some can't. It's possible that Windows ME, under which I'm doing my IGM testing, also does not allow some programs to run, that might run on older Windows O.S.'s. As I test an IGM, if it gives the RTE 200 message, I am making an entry "See RTE Note" beside it on my LORD IGMs Page. The programs that I am unable to install or use for other reasons are being listed there, and in this newsletter issue. I would appreciate the assistance of any newsletter participants or readers with the testing. If you've already determined that an IGM can't be used on a fast (200+ MHz) system, due to RTE 200, or some other reason, please send me a listing of programs you found can't be used. I can easily foresee that many more LORD IGMs will eventually be completely unusable unless updated by their author, or someone else who can get the programs source code. As I find an IGM that I can't use at all, I'm mentioning it by name on my IGMs Page, and in this newsletter issue. Similar research done after this issue is finished will be placed in Issue #9. List of problems with old LORD IGMs (and utilities): (1) The Runtime Error 200 problem may be patch-able with Tppatch.exe. And sometimes it doesn't work at all. Authors who used Turbo Pascal can recompile their programs, if they have the source code, and software patches. See the web-page links in Chuck Culver's entry for more info. (2) No valid Email address: Many IGMs never listed email addresses at all, and many others list addresses that are now invalid. Some never give an author's name. Others only give a nickname. I have not tried to check out postal addresses. But many may be invalid today. (3) Lack of Update Support: OK, you've managed to track an author down. Some may no longer have source code, because it was lost, stolen, or just thrown away? (4) Which brings up the registration component. Most shareware IGMs will not work after a preset period of time, or are crippled in various ways. Without an registration code, you are stuck with that, unless someone can crack the program. Which without the author's permission is illegal. Some IGM authors are still around and can provide you with registration codes, either for money, or for free. But its up to the end-user to track them down. Some authors are accessible but have no intention of updating their Lord programs any further. I think we need a "check-in station" where old authors can drop in, and leave current contact info, or updated programs. Program usage problems: (1) The IGM has RTE 200, and does not patch. Example: Haunted House. (2) What if the IGM is infected, has no other usable version, the author is unavailable for assistance, and your Antivirus program is unable to safely remove the virus, without destroying the program? (3) You can have IGMs whose configuration works, but the Install option doesn't work. Example: Shauna, Princess of Sorcery. Or the config program freezes up, requiring you to use CTRL-ALT-DEL. Example: Spellbinder's General Store. (4) IGM only works when a BBS is present, and not in LORD's local mode. Example: Socrates' Shop. (5) Other Local Mode screw-ups: I have tried three of Ken Weitzel's IGMs - Sherwood Forest, Reflections, and School Days. All behave identically in Local Mode -badly. You have gibberish on- screen, of text combined with ANSI symbols, completely or mostly unreadable. In this case, Ken is supposed to still be around, but has not responded to requests for assistance. Which classifies as usage problem #6 - the author doesn't respond to email inquiries, or is unwilling to help anyone for other reasons. (7) The registration process is BBS-based, and that BBS no longer exists. And the author is nowhere to be found. Lots of ways to find yourself out of luck. A good friend says he no longer will pay for a product whose author is not available in some fashion online. Another friend predicts the Fidonet will be gone in 2-3 years. Registration should have a clear benefit to the payer. The author should be willing to help a person evaluate their program, and if necessary, update it so it works properly. Registration is a two-way street, where both author and user owes each other something. Ignoring people's requests for support is something no one appreciates, or tolerates for long. You're asking, how can I help perhaps? If anyone else has a list of gripes about IGMs, please let me know. As well as letting the author know. And your lists of unworkable/unusable IGMs would be appreciated. If you've tried to register a program, and your letter came back undeliverable, let others know about it. Save them some time, postage, and frustration. Authors: Update your programs, provide CLEAR and understandable documentation, etc. Give the user a decent installation program. Especially one that doesn't require dumping a bunch of files in the main LORD directory. Let the user decide where he wants to store your programs files. If you change email address, change web-site address, then release an IGM update so that people can find you again. There is nothing wrong with releasing a program where only the doc files change. Provide a decent explanation of what the IGM does. If the IGM has the possibility of killing the user, let them know. They deserve the knowledge. I *hate* it when someone writes an IGM, labels it an alpha or beta release, then they simply disappear. I see it a lot in both LORD and LORD II programming. One has to ask themselves, if the program means that little to the author, why waste your time with it? What about an old IGM that won't install in LORD if you have 9+ IGMs already in use. Why should the user have to remove another IGM they are already using just to try out your program? Example: Chapel of St. George. If anyone else wants to vent some frustration on an unusable Lord program, send it in for LordNews issue #9. Perhaps the author will pay attention to your complaints and fix the problem(s). Questions: (1) While using LORD v4.00a as a platform to test IGMs out under, I was using Warrior's Graveyard for about a couple of weeks, and it started giving me "Time Limit Exceeded" messages and stopped running. The same message appeared for Felicity's Temple after only one day of usage. Does anyone know for this means? (2) After patching Tommy Baker's Graveyard IGM, when executed, running LORD in local mode, at 933 Mhz, I can briefly see some error message, then the program quits and returns to the LORD Other Places menu. Does anyone know how one can use the IGM in local mode, or does this happen to others using similar high-speed systems on BBS's? [Red LORD barline] ====================================================================== Old LORD Authors Research Notes Section: Starting in August 2001, I began trying to determine if old LORD IGMs' authors could be reached by email. Many never gave an email address at all, and most of the ones who did, the email info given is now unusable. I have not tried to contact old authors by postal mail, but plan to try that using postcards eventually. I'm hoping that others will help in that project. Michael Everett has been working for over a year to find old authors. He and I together have convinced some authors to update their programs, release them as Freeware, and/or release program source code. Some examples are Vamsi Tadepalli, Brian Bacon, Isaac Adolph, and Jay Cochrane. I have convinced some old friends to resume Lord programming as well, such as Bryan Stanbridge. Earlier I also checked up on Lord II New World authors. That's how I found Isaac Adolph. Unfortunately, every other old known N.W. author turned out to be unaccessible, or has quit all Lord programming, such as Tien Lung or Elric. During the past year, I have checked up on LORD II IGM authors also. Only a quarter or so I think ever bothered to give email contact data, and many who did, either never responded to inquiries or their email account was reported dead/closed. I have checked up on a few LORD utility authors as well. This section is for reporting what I have learned. And yes, this is one major reason, why this issue got so big. But this is LORD news, so it deserves to be reported. If you recognize someone listed below, and know their current WORKING email address, please send it to me. I will then remove them from listing as inaccessible. If authors can not be reached by postal mail, say to register a program, please report that to me. It will save me (or others) wasting time trying to contact those people. If a program is marked with an (*), it is one I don't have, and wasn't aware existed until recently. In some cases, a program may be listed that was never released. If you have one of those marked programs, PLEASE send it to me. The following authors are unavailable by Email. Christian Danychuk - Arkhaim Asylum; Gary Hall - Arena of Lords; Brian Bosscher - Aladdin's Bar; Devon Brooks - Aladdin's Palace, Maldorf's Mountain; Ng Joong Onn - Lord Anarchist; Derek Peterson - Adoption Market; Bram Luknight - Haldar's Arena; Jay Hodges - BackAlley IGMs, Elaikases's Tower, Werewolf, Seth's Cottage, and Forest of Intrigue; Brian Bacon - Baldur's Camp, Torrin's Training Center (*), and Launcher! (*); David Coburn - Barton's Battle Training, Haunted House, Larissa's Lair, and The Mystified Mage; Rafi Bodill - Business Department; Charles Mandeville - Blarney Stone; Tom Walsh - The Magic Kiss, Willy Tart's Carnival; Paul Klingler - Overnighter; Chris Fisher - Castle ColdDrake, Kaldor's Court; Jeff Fanjoy - Caves of Despair; Daniel Owens - City of Eros; Mike Zrichuk - Fairy Town; Korombos - KDrive, KLord, Fun & Games, Haunted Mansion; Jason Jones - Red Dragon Flea Market, and Red Dragon Pet Shop; and George Batalias - Free World. Note: Batalias has an email address, but does not respond to email inquiry. Unavailable authors continued: 08/30: Kevin Foster - TOD LORD, Lordfos (*); Lord II Authors: Habib; Mike Hutson; N. McKinney; Talaphid; Spring Fang; Dave Henderson; Jim Reardon - Darkness Falls; Andrew Dubry -Sword of Fate; Heath Axton - Darklord; LORD authors resumed: Chris Carson - Chance's Cafe, The Surgical Clinic; Larry Patterson - three Axehandler IGMs; Charlie Wardick - Changeling; Ricky Friesen - Dragon's Breath Mountain, Player's Market; Alan Boyer - Dragon's Breath Square; Brian May - Dragon's Claw Tavern, Caldor's Orphanage, King Carnage's Castle (*), and The Wise One; Digant Kasundra - DKLotto; Chris Dorf -DownSide Tavern; Joshua Eckerman - Dragon Town University, Mirror of Illusions; Charles Feldmeier - Strong Man I igms: e-Man World, Love Shack, and Race Trek; Alex Earhart - Castle of the DreamLord; John Hutton - Lord TRX!: Socrates' Shop; Allyn Cross - Napping Ocean Adventure, RimWell Isle of Witches; Mike Collard - LordFX, etc; Jeremy Stewart - Village of the Phoenix; Timothy Ward; Michael Stephens - Kanen's Lotto Hut; Ed Mullins - Lord Explorer, Lord Looks, Random Lord Looks utility; Tommy Baker - The Graveyard; Matt Ernisse - Psyc0's Inn; Shane Smotherman - Spellbinder's General Store; "Storm" -Lord Guessing Game, Old Mans Church, Russian Roulette (*); Chris Hamilton - Morph's Gymnasium; Robert Strange - Player's Guild, Lord Trivia; and Arthur Lewis - Gate Way To Heaven. 08/31: Martin Hoffmann, Becky Benjamin, and Nick Shreders. September Notes: 09/03: Brian Myers - Juancho's Paradise. 09/07: Barry Webb - K9; Kaolin Fire Stocking - Dragon's Castle, Hospital Lobby; Steven Lorenz - Kingdom of Barbadore, LordChat igm. 09/08: Wiley Black - Clan Master's Inn; Lee Hull - Lester's Palace; Jeff Donchez - Lord Brothel, Ldrrated.zip, Ldterror.zip, Ldxrated.zip, and ldxxx.zip; Robert Ehrhardt - Lord Hunter; Tobin Fricke - L.O.R.D. Gambling Casino; Chad Schwartz - Let's Have Fun; Trevor Kooy and Shawna Fountain - LORD Life; Scott Orheim - LORD Trivia. 09/12: Michael Ciesiiensky - Turgon's House; Joe Pelley - Lord's Realm; John Gibbard - Land of Merdiqua; David Holderness -Forest of the Raven, Midsummer's Dream, Oasis of El-Sayal, and Mos Eisley Spaceport TEOS IGM (*); Stephen Oberholtzer - Magic Shop; Kevin Sauer - Mystic Tower; Scott Emrich - Mysterious Hut, The Monastery (*). 09/14: Matt Granberry - The Old Man, Ski Lodge; Jon Rosebaugh - Nudist Colony; Brad Carson - Obo's Black Market; William Turner - Old Man's Cave. 09/15: Carlton Griffin, John Tucker, Scott Emrich, Mike Eheler, Jason Naumann; Lisa Johansson - Chapel of St. George, and The Well (igm *). 10/08: Removed Rick Smorawski from section, was contacted by him this week. Email: rickms@email.com. Author of Hidden Spring of Turgon v3.0. IGM has RTE 200 problem, but works after patching. [Red LORD barline] ====================================================================== WT-LORD Discussion Notes Section: All entries through Joseph Watson's 09/07 entry are from his site's WT-Lord Discussion Board. Subsequent notes are based on Icerage WT-Lord Mailing List messages. Entries are listed in chronological order. (CCIGM #8 Note: Email/site addresses are listed only for Chuck Brogan, Shannon Talley, and Joseph Watson.) ------------------------------------------------------------ Shannon Talley: shannon.talley@fidotel.com Fidotel Lord site: http://www.fidotel.com/public/lord/ ---------------------------------------- 08/18: Hey Joe and everyone else. Icerage's support website is now at http://www.fidotel.com. We also have a discussion group (Listserve), which is moderated by myself and the author of WT-LORD, Joe Marcelletti. To join the discussion listserve, send an email addressed to listserve@fidotel.com. Subject: subscribe, and on the first line of the message write, subscribe icerage. Or you can subscribe from our online form on the Icerage support page at Fidotel.com. Joseph Watson: joe@farpointBBS.com -OR- jmwatson@cox-internet.com joeCODE WT-Lord IGMs Page: http://farpoint.1starnet.com/joeCODE/IGM.htm Main WT-Lord Page: http://www.farpointbbs.com/wtlord/ WT-LORD Newsletter: http://www.farpointbbs.com/wtlord/News.htm ---------------------------------------- 08/19: I've had complaints about most of those items. The two that make most people mad here are: 1. Losing a Dragon Kill if you do it just before midnight and are still online playing when the clock strikes midnight. 2. People also complain about the unlimited gambling in the inn. I agree, with them on that problem. I'm writing a script to go in and gamble hundreds of times... over and over. This should be limited to a designated number per day ... maybe only allow a person to gamble say 10 times in a day. If those fixes were in place I wouldn't mind recompiling my IGMs for a change in the player record file. Watson 08/19 #2: Yes!!!!! Without a doubt, the program has some problems which should be addressed ASAP! I would also like to see better menu support for IGMs. Maybe listing them side-by-side or a more prompt added if you exceed 22 IGMs in a game. I'm sure you can add a lot more things to the wish list. Chuck Brogan: brogan@ime.net -- Acad's World: http://www.acad.dynip.com WT-LORD IGM Hints/Tips: http://www.acad.dynip.com/public/igmhints.htm http://come.to/acad -- telnet://www.acad.dynip.com ------------------------------------------------------------ 08/19: I agree the IGM menu has to be improved as well as the IGM editor. The editor is very difficult to use once a dozen or more IGMs are added. You have to delete the file and start over just to make a simple change or (to) delete an IGM. I'd like to see a limit on the number of times the gambling can be done in the Dark Cloak Tavern, as well as the amounts that can be wagered. This has to be fixed; it can ruin any game of LORD if abused. Also there is a file open at times that prevents gold transfers from being completed. Not sure if it only happens when players are involved are online or not. It does happen. Not all of the events of the day get recorded, number of lays, IGM activity, and etc. I still think it is possible to lose a Dragon kill at the start of a new day. Importance of fixes: 1. Gambling 2. IGM menu & editor 3. All other issues. 08/19 #2: The database overflow as I call it. Once a player goes over a billion in experience points or in gold all sorts of things go wrong. Experience points aren't recorded or displayed incorrectly. The bank becomes unusable. Some IGMs may not work correctly. Shannon Talley 08/20: I agree Joe. That's one of the only things I would like to see changed. I spoke with Joe about this many moons ago, and he was honestly hoping someone would develop a 3rd party IGM menu program to address this. Perhaps you should drop him a line on our listserve (icerage@fidotel.com) - he is a member. Chuck Brogan 08/20: The problem as I see it is not the IGMs but the data presented to them. I know the simple solution is to slay the Dragon and everything is fine. Some players just haven't quite got the concept of the game and refuse to slay the Dragon and start over. Joseph Watson 08/21: IGM menu system for WT-LORD? I feel it should be done by WT-LORD and not by an IGM. Have your IGMs do a "submenu thing"? Once again I feel WT-LORD should contain a better IGM menu/configuration system! Example: Other Places =-=--= 1. Barak's House 2. (Joseph's 25 IGMs). This is what a menu would look like if you were to control it with an IGM. I'd prefer to have WT-LORD take care of it. Do you still support and update your IGMs, (people ask me)? Stop asking me the same questions over and over! Some of the IGMs do not need to be updated! Therefore I do not release updates to them regularly. Others that I add additions to are only updated to the public when I feel they are ready for release. Chuck Brogan and I run "BETA" versions of the public releases before anyone else. We check them out and fine-tune them. When they are ready for release, I release them! I feel I've proven myself to release "stable" and relative "bug free" IGMs. Many of them at that.... over the years. I continue to program IGMs because I enjoy playing LORD. It would please me to see WT-LORD updated. How long has it been? We still are faced with the same problems that still haven't been corrected! How can I find out what's happening, (you ask)? Read and write on the discussion board! That's what it's here for! Most ideas for the last IGM (The WhiteHouse) were voiced here and incorporated into the IGM. Joseph Watson 08/23: Since it looks as though WT-LORD will remain as is with it's coding then I'll consider writing an IGM menu system. I won't work on it with the intention of getting it done quickly due to my current work schedule but I will look into it. Chuck Brogan 08/23: The IGM menu must be handled by WT-LORD. A third party solution is not the answer. The IGM editor is in the LORD source code and that is the only solution. ... Joe's IGMs are supported and updated when needed. He even updates his freeware, Merry Xmas and others. His IGMs go through a beta testing and when a new release or an upgrade is released it is solid. I've been using all of his IGMs for over three years and have no problems with them. WT-LORD fails but his IGMs don't. Bobby Thornton 08/27: From what I see of the game. 1. Icerage needs to support the game better. IE: Bug fixes for KNOWN problems. 2. Joe's IGM's are the BEST of any I have every played. Not only are they updated, there are no known bugs to boot. 3. Joe, I believe, that you are the only reason that LORD has not gone the way of the DO DO (bird). 4. If you play LORD you MUST have Joe's IGM's to have any chance of having a fun in the game. Knock them Dead Joe, you've done real good! Gary Hartzell 08/29: When I was first thinking about putting up a BBS dedicated to LORD a few months ago, I briefly considered running Wildcat and WT-LORD. The price tag for doing so quickly changed my mind! I went with DOS LORD -- $15 compared to $50 for WT-LORD! After reading through all these messages detailing all the bugs in WT-LORD, I am even happier for my decision to go with the original LORD game! The IGMs scrolling off the screen has to be my biggest complaint as a WT-LORD player. Good luck getting your problems addressed! Joseph Watson 08/30: WT-LORD was available several months ago? This is news to me. I've been under the impression that WT-LORD has not been available for registration for close to 2 years. Metropolis even contacted me and wanted help due to people contacting them about registering the program. So as far as I know, WT-LORD registrations have "JUST NOW" become available again. DOS LORD is being worked on by Michael as well as a 32-bit version of LORD. (... No news on the 32- bit version coming anytime soon though, but I will continue to listen for info on it, and would be willing to take a look at LORD in 32-bit form. Now for DOS LORD! It's a 16-bit program that doesn't release processor calls, therefore it will take your system resources to 100 percent, and your 32- bit O.S. will drag to a halt. WT-LORD in 32-bit wcCODE. I've had 20 people playing it at the same time on my system without dragging the system down. Please don't take it like I'm bashing 16-bit LORD! I'm not ... but for someone running NT or Windows NT server, it's the only way to go currently if you wish to run it multi-node. My complaints with WT-LORD have been problems that have never been addressed in the core programming of the game. The menu system problem? I think I can fix that with my own programming but that's also another story! I don't feel it's my place to fix it. Gambling limits? Not enforced in DOS LORD either. Would be easy to fix though ... WT-LORD is equally as stable as DOS LORD but if registrations are being "SOLD", I personally would like to see a couple of things fixed. I have no intentions of porting my 25+ IGMs to DOS LORD or 32-bit LORD. The 32-bit LORD programming language is different from my Microsoft Visual Basic 6, and I can't see sinking money into a new language. For now I will stay with WT-LORD and may write a "Menu Interface" for people running registered IGMs of mine. Darn, I'm a friendly guy. So, please people, give me a break. If anything sounds like it's bashing, then you're taking it the wrong way. Maybe I should just move on to more positive things. Gary Hartzell 08/30: This wasn't several weeks ago, this was several months ago - WT-LORD was available at the time, as it is now. Either way, you get my point -- no offense intended -- it was always the money issue for me, since I have so little of it. I may even upgrade to Wildcat in a few years if my financial situation changes and I'm still running my BBS. I have heard nothing but good things about Wildcat Netserver. I'm not saying DOS LORD is perfect, by any means! Michael Preslar is, however working on the bugs, and it's not too bad at all. But, this isn't the place for discussion of DOS LORD. Joseph Watson 09/02: I've updated the Mad Mage's Tavern and Dodge City! Sharon will never be the same again. The Fly is now funnier than ever! More stuff not mentioned also.... Butch Bigwood 09/05: Good luck getting them to fix WT-LORD. I think they just want to sell some more codes to the program and not support it. A 2-node version is no good even if it is free. Think about it a minute, go into the forest and start a fight but do not finish it. Walk off from the game for about 15 minutes and when you return you have been disconnected and the game will think you are still in a forest fight. If 2 people do that then no one else can play that day until the sysop kicks them out of the game or until the game resets at midnight. So much for a 2-node version. That is what I have to say. Joseph Watson 09/07: ... The updates mentioned are running on Farpoint and Acad's World and being tested. They both have major additions made to them and I want to make sure they don't corrupt the storage databases. 10/01 Note: Pruned out first part of entry, never did get email response from Joseph. Guess he forgot about my message. Shannon Talley 09/13: The new Icerage mailing list is for (1) the requests by WT-Lord users for registration keys, and (2) discussions about Icerage Software. Discussion about Wildcat 5 is also allowed. FidoTel is hosting Icerage's site for the distribution of keys. FidoTel does not own or operate Icerage software. (But we do have a nice game of WT-Lord going on.) ---------------------------------------- IceRage List Digest mode is a compilation of each week's messages combined into one message. To subscribe send an Email to listserve@fidotel.com, subject Subscribe, and on the first line of the message type: subscribe icerage-d. Note: If the digest doesn't show up in your email, ask Shannon to add you to the digest list manually. Restored to Issue #8 files on 10/08/01. [Red LORD barline] ====================================================================== Recent LORD Files Section: August 05 - October 01, 2001. LORD IGMs, recently released or discovered: ------------------------------------------------------------ MINES110 ZIP 4838 8-10-01 The Abandoned Mines v1.10 (RHP) XMAS100 ZIP 3282 8-10-01 Merry Christmas v1.00 (RHP) GTC100 ZIP 4321 8-25-01 Garrison's Training Center 1.00 (RHP) DAE402 ZIP 348819 8-28-01 Daemonica S. Dominion v4.02 PSYC0INN ZIP 54603 8-28-01 Psyc0's Inn v1.00 ROBIN4 ZIP 145140 9-22-01 Robin Hood v4.0 - first release BARAK20 ZIP 61614 9-27-01 Barak's House v2.00 - recompiled ROBIN4 ZIP 146709 10-02-01 Robin Hood 4.00 - current update ------------------------------- Notes: The IGMs marked (RHP) require the Gateway IGM, by Jason Brown, to be installed in your LORD game. The Robin Hood IGM will be updated occasionally as the author works on making it cheat-proof. ============================================================ LORD II New Worlds: ------------------------------------------------------------ FIXTEOS ZIP 63741 8-14-01 Lord2: TEOS patch program TL170 ZIP 324464 8-15-01 LORD II: TEOS v1.70 new world ============================================================ Non-IGM LORD Programs: ------------------------------------------------------------ ADULTD ZIP 32305 8-28-01 Adult text file for Daemonica IGM TTPATCH ZIP 9623 9-15-01 Tppatch Runtime Error 200 fix L444 ZIP 79611 9-22-01 LordNet League 444 info file CRT ZIP 9-25-01 Pedt Scragg's Pascal CRT library. ------------------------------- Note: For usage by Lord programmers wishing to recompile their programs to fix RTE 200 problem. Visit this web-page http://www.pedt.demon.co.uk/crt/ before using crt.zip. ============================================================ End of recent LORD releases listing. [Red LORD barline] ====================================================================== LORD Authors Status Notes: LORD Authors run-down: I'm defining Fully Active in this issue, as those who are known to be actively working on LORD programs, or web sites; or who I get Email from often. Some fully active authors are listed as Semi-Active, if they haven't released anything in recent months. Anyone who has not released a program or sent me Lord news since April 2001 are now classified Fully Inactive. Any LORD web-site with copyright dates before January 2001 are classified as Abandoned. ------------------------------------------------------------ Fully Active: Myself, Lloyd Hannesson, Gary Hartzell, Robert Olsen, Shannon Talley, Michael Preslar, Duncan Idaho, Michael Everett, Paul Koukos, James Baran, Mike Dillon, Ruth Argust, Jay Cochrane, and Mike Ehlert. Fully active sites: LORD Legacy, my web-site, DDS site. Non LORD-active authors: Bryan Turner and Seth Robinson. Semi-Active: Michael Adams, Orion Elder, Black Omen, Bryan Stanbridge, Codax Dragon, Isaac Adolph, Joseph Watson, Chuck Brogan, and Bobby Queen. Semi-active Web sites: LORD II: Awakening, LordNet site, Prowler Productions site, Kiteria's Korner site, and BBS Archives site. Assumed Active: Rick Parrish, Mike Hodgson, Aaron Wornom, Mike Snyder, Sallee Huber, Robert McLeod, Brent Jackson. Goldengate Dddsdoors FTP directory. Working on IGMs to fix RTE200: David Simmons, Robert Fogt, and Jay Cochrane. Inactive Web-sites: Official LORD II IGM Archive Site, LORD II: CNW site (since late June). Authors assumed Inactive: Joel Gathercole, Michael Bujold, Marty Blankenship. Unresponsive authors: Steve Gargolinski, and Ken Weitzel. Both are considered fully inactive currently. Former Authors: Elric, Spencer Vickers, Jason Brown, and Charles Culver. No-Name Productions, Shining Star Software sites. Notes: These authors are no longer associated with LORD programming. Suzanne Franklin, Trevor Herndon, Joe Marcelletti, Marc Ryan, Rick Troiano, Vamsi Tadepalli, Ahkenaton, Chet Rhodes, Michael Adams, Tien Lung, Voodoo Knight, Eric Richardson, Tony Brown, Brian Bray, Eric Cameron, David Taylor, Kenneth Padgett, Justin Pasher, Nannette Thacker, and Tom Toothman. Some are working on recompiling their programs to fix RTE200 problems, however they are not resuming active LORD programming otherwise. 09/24 Notes: I don't see much point to listing Lord-based web-rings in the newsletter, since the ones I belong to all seem to be fully inactive. However, Paul Koukos has an InterBBS Games webring that is active. Webring remarks: Lost track of Colby Reich, and can't detect activity any more in LORD Domain web-ring. Preslar's LORD ring's homepage disappeared last year, and I believe the ring is currently inactive. Elric's Lord II ring has been inactive for many months now. Old files sites notes: I don't list the Goldengate FTP site directories as active anymore in issues, other than the ddsdoor directory. I found that the Artibbs FTP site has not added a single file to its Door games directory since 1997. The Galileo files site is also never updated. All references to Telnet sites, and online LORD game sites, except in Authors' entries, are hereby removed as well. The same goes for Dragon graphics sites since I have lost my interest in keeping track of them. Abandoned sites: WT-LORD Web-ring, LORD IRC web-ring, LORD Domain web- ring; Shaun's Lord Cheats, Billy England's site, Purple Haze site, Blackfist Lord site, Arctic Productions, Dore's Lord IGMs, FX Sound Systems, phsoft, Carlton Griffin's site, Mad Systems, Colby Reich's sites, [SYS} Lord site. Sites with copyright dates that are over a year old are listed as Abandoned. If the site's listed email address is invalid, it is listed as "Dead". 10/02 Status Changes: Kyle Parish is reclassified as a Former LORD Author. The Lord II:CNW Site is closed currently. And the Artibbs FTP site is no longer usable by Anonymous FTP. 10/08: Heard from Elric (Jay Weber). He continues to have computer problems, and is fully inactive as to LORD programming. Further info will be in Issue #9. [Red LORD barline] ====================================================================== LordNews Issues Files Links Section: HTML Web-Page Issue Files: ----------------------------------- LordNews Issue #1 - Released on April 28, 2000. 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Updated issue files re-released on October 09-10, 2001. http://www.geocities.com/donaldtidmore/ccigm-8.html http://www.geocities.com/donaldtidmore/ccigm-8b.html LordNews Issue #9 - Currently under development: -- http://www.geocities.com/donaldtidmore/ccigm-9.html ------------------------------------------------------------ Original Text Version Archive Files: ----------------------------------- Text Issue #1 - Released on December 20, 1999: Updated 10/02/01. http://www.geocities.com/donaldtidmore/Lordnews/CCIGM-01.ZIP Text Issue #2 - Released on April 05, 2000: http://www.geocities.com/donaldtidmore/Lordnews/CCIGM-02.ZIP Text Issue #3 - Released on June 20, 2000: http://www.geocities.com/donaldtidmore/Lordnews/CCIGM-03.ZIP Text Issue #4 - Released on September 20, 2000: http://www.geocities.com/donaldtidmore/Lordnews/CCIGM-04.ZIP Text Issue #5 - Released on December 20, 2000: http://www.geocities.com/donaldtidmore/Lordnews/CCIGM-05.ZIP Text Issue #6 - Released on April 16-17, 2001: http://www.geocities.com/donaldtidmore/Lordnews/CCIGM-06.ZIP Text - LordNews Issue #6 Update: In preparation currently: http://www.geocities.com/donaldtidmore/CCIGM06U.ZIP Text - LordNews Issue #7 - Released on August 05, 2001. http://www.geocities.com/donaldtidmore/Lordnews/CCIGM-07.ZIP Text - LordNews Issue #8 - Released on October 02, 2001. http://www.geocities.com/donaldtidmore/Lordnews/CCIGM-08.ZIP LordNews Issue #9 - Text: Scheduled for mid-December 2001: -- http://www.geocities.com/donaldtidmore/Lordnews/CCIGM-09.ZIP [Red LORD barline] ====================================================================== Newsletter Summary and Contributions: LordNews issues #1 - #5, and #7, covered three months each. Issue #6 covered four months. Issue #8's development started on August 11, 2001, and it was officially released on October 02, 2001, around 10 p.m. The focus here is on active participants only, and the listing is mostly based on Issue #7 participation. Names are in alphabetical order, by last name. My thanks to: Chuck Brogan, Jason Brown, Mike Dillon, Codax Dragon, Orion Elder, Michael Everett, Joel Gathercole, Lloyd Hannesson, Gary Hartzell, Mike Hodgson, Duncan Idaho, Paul Koukos, Robert Olsen, Rick Parrish, Michael Preslar, Bobby Queen, Mike Snyder, Bryan Stanbridge, Shannon Talley, Bryan Turner, Joseph Watson, Aaron Wornom, and Kyle Parish. Thanks for long-term support: Ruth Argust, Mike Ehlert, Suzanne Franklin, and Seth Robinson. Suzanne is always appreciated especially, since she never forgets my birthday, and sends me cards for other holidays as well. Image credits, etc.: The red LORD bar line graphic is public domain. This web page was developed using the Qedit v3.0 DOS text editor, and checked out using Netscape Navigator v4.78 and Microsoft Internet Explorer v5.50. My web pages are optimized for Netscape Navigator browsers. Note: Those pages with many tables are best printed using MS Internet Explorer. Official Release printing notes: Part One, HTML, uses 15 pages. Part Two, HTML, uses 16 pages. -------------------------------------------------- 10/15/01 Update: LordNews Issue #8 Text files were released via the LordNews Mailing List Tuesday afternoon, October 09, 2001. They will be posted soon to my new Camelot LordNews FDN on the Fidonet. ====================================================================== (See web-page for Site navigation links, Guestbook links, and access counter information.) =============================================================== Simplest mode of update: Jan. 04, 2003. A) GeoCities Castle Camelot site re-activated to full usage from December 01 through December 31, 2002. http://www.geocities.com/donaldtidmore/ - Shortcut URL http://www.geocities.com/SiliconValley/Vista/5389/ - Actual URL. B) As of Jan. 01, 2003, long-term Castle Camelot site is now at http://www.fidotel.com/public/camelot/. End of update note. ======================== Copyright © 2001-2003 Donald Tidmore (donald.tidmore@usa.net). Minor revision: January 04, 2003 at 02:11 am. ============================================================